Registered Member #25266 Joined: Sat May 09 2009, 07:18AM
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Fadiva jan salam dobara, I commented just in purpose of sharing my field of thoughts with someone, who has gone through transmutation, new born as you would call it, and who got the same cultural roots and whose state of traits are anchored like mines but never been interested in taking side. As I read from your second comment to your “…”Hi There, Welcome, Its nice to have you join from my side and …. For belonging to a “Side” takes more than belonging to a school, since, extreme spoken, I see Jesus has a lot more in common with those hated Sadaq Hedayet, F. Nietsche, Kafka or Marx than with his MOST of his followers. I guarantee that you will get the chance to experience it. On the other hand, I am happy for you.
Registered Member #25266 Joined: Sat May 09 2009, 07:18AM
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Ofough e Mehhr salam, great to hear that s.o got similair interest like that of Fadiva and me. Please dont be shy(hahha) in sharing your thoughts. Have good time. blessed be conscious ones, mercy upon lazy ones
Registered Member #29728 Joined: Wed Dec 30 2009, 01:59AM
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Hi Pars, I never meant an insult or disrespect to you . When I said from my side I only did not want to take liberty and speak for someone else as a respect for your freedom. wethere you agree with my faith or beliefs or not , I consider you as a friend and I have high respect for you. This is what discussions are . freely express our opinions without being concerned about what the other person might think. But If in my discussion you felt I personally said something to offend you , I am truly sorry and please let me know if you feel that way. You are an intelligent open minded person and If I sometimes choose to answer from a different angle and you find that offensive please let me know. Sometimes with the best intentions we still tend to hurt some one and I will appreciate honosty and I will take correction no matter I like it or not.
Registered Member #25266 Joined: Sat May 09 2009, 07:18AM
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Fadiva jan salam dobara, you brought it to the point that a discourse is there to discuss and consider something from different angel. Since you are important to me, I considered it as a piety that you settle yourself just with name christian. As Mohlana Jalaldin would put "az sher ta sher farq esh sal hast" (The noun as name and its attribute are way diff. from each other) or man kind in our time like that of Nielson Mandela VS those of Osama Bin Laden or George Bush. I have been living in christain soceity and have some access to their history, culture and offcourse to their thinkers, whose invisible influence is all over. And if you would end up there just with name I thougt it would not be very wise. I might have reacted impartially and didnt comment your post before your post Sun Feb 28 2010, 08:32AM, but there I realized that you are sincere, as you interpreted my "khoda hafez" as good bye. And I know what the cause of scencirity's blossom is. Dont worry about me, I am a grown up person and the process began alot earlier than should have.
Wish you even a happier week blessed be conscious ones, mercy upon lazy ones
Registered Member #29728 Joined: Wed Dec 30 2009, 01:59AM
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Hi Pars, On the subject of Marxism and others, Jesus does not take sides he loves us all the same. If I brought up the subject of humility, it was not to say that being rich is bad and being poor is good. it was about the issues of the heart. He is not a political figure as even the jews wanted him to take side against the Romans and take up throne against the Romans and rule the jewish nation as a messiah . He said to them that his kingdom is not of this wolrd and even the Romans were welcome in his kingdom, (he heals the Roman soldier 's servant). He wants to be the king of our hearts and not a political figure.This made the jews very mad and made them to seek to kill him. In the same way I refuse to take sides also. Be blessed.
Registered Member #29728 Joined: Wed Dec 30 2009, 01:59AM
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Hi Pars, If you noticed I never claim to be pro this and pro that . I did not decide on being a christian because I live in the US and I agree with everything they do or say. Absolutely not. That is why I mentioned about a personal story and not what a wonderful party or church I belong to but purely the bible and its relationship to my life alone. If I gave my opinion I tried to stick with the bible and sometimes saying that I am a christian could bring up a lot of things being done in the name of christ that I had no part of it . In my opinion, crime done in the name of Christ , is just like Crucifying him again since he never thought violance and immorality and prejedice and never hurt a soul.
Registered Member #25266 Joined: Sat May 09 2009, 07:18AM
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just repeating myself, since the comment ended up somewhere than here so needs to be paste here again.
Fadiva Jan Salam, I am ok and eager to hear how you been doing and if have any good news from your lately visit in heaven. It is always uplifting and encouraging to read your messages, since it derives from a heart that is stepping towards humanity. Concerning your mention of Humility, if it is the one that is been practiced through Christian history and today’s church, which brought uncountable calamities and a few salvations, then I got to pass. I don’t want here to polarize Christianity against other schools of theories. But when it comes to Jesus Christ than I have to show respect or love, since he was righteous person and loved human kind and even sacrificed himself. Otherwise it would not be conformable with me and I would tend to join those of superficial masse in my considerations. “Let him tell you how to approach him. We must be willing to be wrong and ask him to direct our path or we would have already known who he is by our ways.” (Last time as you gave me the address and phone Nr of Him; the navigation system collapsed and the area code of the phone Nr was wrong; hahhah) I would never dare to mention that I am alright and I would eagerly share (as you would put it “confess”) that I am anything than this. But at the same time I have to mention that I don’t remember that ever just work for the sake of work and studied for sake of time killing or study, but as far as I know I have had an inner derive for my private research and studied or worked for life’s responsibilities. “I am gentle and humble in heart (Matthew 11:29)” I guarantee you that this is not the absolute receipt, since it depends whether if comes out of weakness or generosity . “A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger (Proverbs 15:1). James 4:10 states, "Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord and He will exalt youC. V. 2, 4-5 The Labor Of The Humble Servant“ Hhm; Either I am slow off the mark to get your point or ignorant enough to oversee my arrogance. Thanks for suggestion I will elaborate on it. There is a simple question, how would He exalt me. I have some comments on but for now I think it is better to let go. Somehow I am kind of paralyzed and just can’t allow my thoughts flow. I would appreciate and be pleased if you trust me with your life story. Be blessed.
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